Trinty Win Key and start menu

bugmenot · 2025-08-03 13:31

First I have to thank q4os team for the great work they are doing.
Second, in trinty I want it to open kickoff menu or classic menu when the Win key is pressed and released (like in KDE or Windows), not just on press
So I can use win key +D to show desktop without popup the start menu everytime.

theasmitkid · 2025-08-03 15:17

Not yet implemented in Trinity, but I have posted a request in https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5536
There is a program named xcape which might help fix this issue but I haven't tested it personally yet
Install using

sudo apt-get install xcape

Learn more at: https://github.com/alols/xcape

Update: complete solution in next post

Last edited by theasmitkid (2025-08-03 15:41)

theasmitkid · 2025-08-03 16:03

After installing xcape,
Open control panel,
Open "Regional & Accessibility"
Open "Keyboard Shortcuts"
Save the current scheme as "DEFAULT" (for backup purposes)
Search for "Popup Launch Menu"
Below, click on button next to "Custom"
In primary shortcut, click clear button and then enter a new key combination for showing up the menu (it's just in case win key doesn't work so keep it anything, in my case I've kept it as "Win+ctrl+z")
Click apply, then ok

Now open your konsole and type

xcape -e 'Super_L=Control_L|Super_L|Z'

NOTE wrote:

replace "Control_L|Super_L|Z" with the key combination you had set in control panel previously

NOTE wrote:

You have to run this command everytime you boot into q4os to get the start menu to work with win button
To automate it,, the best way is to use trinity's autostart manager
For tutorial, refer to https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5151

type enter

Now try pressing the win key and releasing it, it should show up the menu

NOTE wrote:

Bug 1: sometimes the menu shows but but kicker in case of autohiding kicker, and moving cursor to kicker may cause the menu to cover kicker

What's next?
You can now bind win+d to perform certain tasks
The best way to do it is to use trinity's input actions, refer to my post here for tutorial https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5123

bugmenot · 2025-08-04 07:48

Thank you , I followed your way and it working very good,
can you help me to show thumbnail of windows on taskbar whilehopering overthem instead of the text tooltip?

theasmitkid · 2025-08-04 08:43

Glad it worked out for you~

To show thumbnail,
right click on your panel (kicker)
click "configure panel"
go to the "Taskbar" tab
Go to "Appearance" tab inside "Taskbar" tab
Check "Show thumbnails on hover"

NOTE wrote:

Maximum Dimension can be 500px

bugmenot · 2025-08-04 08:58

thank you so much, you helped me, i formely use xfce4 and cinnamon, and i like to add widgets or applets to show network speed download and upload rate>
in cinnamon i add system monitor, just for network speed which is great
https://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets/view/88
in xfce4 i add netgraph
https://github.com/dlzr/xfce4-netgraph-plugin
is there something in trinty?
i dont want conky i need some thing in taskbar

q4osteam · 2025-08-04 09:17

@theasmitkid
Thanks for this tip https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.ph … 055#p31055 , would you please sum it and create as new topic in the "Tips and tutorials" section https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewforum.php?id=7 ?

theasmitkid · 2025-08-04 09:22

bugmenot wrote:

thank you so much, you helped me, i formely use xfce4 and cinnamon, and i like to add widgets or applets to show network speed download and upload rate>
in cinnamon i add system monitor, just for network speed which is great
https://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets/view/88
in xfce4 i add netgraph
https://github.com/dlzr/xfce4-netgraph-plugin
is there something in trinty?
i dont want conky i need some thing in taskbar

With as much features are xfce4 and cinnamon? Nope, I wish there were~

There's an inbuilt applet named "System Guard" which somewhat works, to me it was too ugly and lacked feature so i don't use it..
You can try it out by right clicking the panel
Click "Unlock Panel"
Right click on panel
Click Add Applet to Panel
Search for System Guard/Browse through other plugins if you want to
Add

You can also install other applets available in the repo, here are some I can remember

sudo apt install kmoon-trintiy kicker-applets-trinity fifteenapplet-trinity eyesapplet-trinity kweather-trinity

For system monitoring, i currently use a tray item I wrote in gtk/python, but it's quite heavy and I haven't ported it to tkinter/python yet and hence not available publically..

However there are some available solutions, for example xsmon, it doesn't have that much features but do check it out

Also look at
https://github.com/seb3773/qsidebar
https://github.com/seb3773/umbatts
https://github.com/seb3773/diskact

Last edited by theasmitkid (2025-08-04 09:30)

bugmenot · 2025-08-04 12:06

Thank you for your great help, and thank you for pointing out these infos and utlities.
i think of even using an updated trayicon graph like on for icewm in antix which is great and its tooltip diplays alot of useful info.
i install multiload-ng-indicator
https://github.com/udda/multiload-ng
it worked for once, i installed it from .deb file may be i will compile it from source, or use another panel like tint2,
i think in aloud voice, but ii am sure you will have better ideas

theasmitkid · 2025-08-04 12:22

multiload-ng-indicator looks great for your use case, but it hasn't been updated in 9 years, so there must be a lot of optimisations made in the libraries used by this app but not been used by it. It's written in gtk2 and i have a bad history with gtk so i will not be updating it..
There's also TQT which is really interesting and would probably the best for TDE, but i dont really know how to set it up as of now, @seb3773 has made a couple TQT based apps..

I will implement a tkinter based systray resourse monitoring app later and release it, its almost complete except for the trayicon graphs, i will have to look into it as drawing such graphs in tcl/tk every second might cause performance issues..

I would not personally not recommend using another panel application along with kicker as it might not be compatible with TDE and customization might get complex later on..

since multiload-ng-indicator works out for you, you could use it for the time being, compiling from source wouldn't make sense as it hasnt been updated in a long time

q4osteam · 2025-08-04 15:39

theasmitkid wrote:

There's an inbuilt applet named "System Guard" which somewhat works, to me it was too ugly and lacked feature so i don't use it.

Trinity System Guard applet in the systray is quite difficult to configure, but once it's done, it works and looks perfect.

theasmitkid · 2025-08-04 16:19

Ohh, could you share a tutorial?

q4osteam · 2025-08-04 22:54

We have no tutorial at the moment, we may push some in the Tips and tutorials section. It would take a time as we are busy at the moment. You could try to play around and post the result we will join the discussion.

bugmenot · 2025-08-05 07:09

i added trinty system guard menu, and i see only cpu and memory, where is the network upload and download speed rate?

bugmenot · 2025-08-05 07:20

it is obviously system guard seems powerfull, i managed to add network graph, but ehen idle it shows graph which is weird,
i will try to customize to a modern look, also i am waiting for the trayicon app, please post here when it is public

Last edited by bugmenot (2025-08-05 07:32)

q4osteam · 2025-08-05 09:31

bugmenot wrote:

... i am waiting for the trayicon app, please post here when it is public

It is available as panel applet, see post by @theasmitkid https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.ph … 075#p31075
There's an inbuilt applet named "System Guard" which somewhat works, to me it was too ugly and lacked feature so i don't use it..
You can try it out by right clicking the panel
Click "Unlock Panel"
Right click on panel
Click Add Applet to Panel
Search for System Guard/Browse through other plugins if you want to
Add
Lock panel back

theasmitkid · 2025-08-05 09:56

q4osteam wrote:

bugmenot wrote:
... i am waiting for the trayicon app, please post here when it is public
It is available as panel applet, see post by @theasmitkid

Ah i think @bugmenot is probably talking about the trayicon app I'm writing

I've gotten a ton of assignments and exams to give so i probably won't have time for development, however I could release an alpha which just barely works using tkinter
Idea for stable release is to make a pytqt/tqt as well as tk based one, the advantage of using (py)tqt is that i can make an kicker applet which can have bigger widgets, meanwhile using tkinter i can only make a trayicon, which limits size to a square of 16x16 in kicker afaik

bugmenot · 2025-08-05 11:00

i managed to use ksysguard and it is very good

thank you for your great work, keep this project alive

Last edited by bugmenot (2025-08-05 11:02)

q4osteam · 2025-08-05 11:03

bugmenot wrote:

i managed to use ksysguard ...

+1

theasmitkid · 2025-08-05 12:46

bugmenot wrote:

i managed to use ksysguard and it is very good
https://i.postimg.cc/nsSM3J5L/ksnip.png
thank you for your great work, keep this project alive

Looks great!

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