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#26 2017-12-31 21:44

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

Q4OS is very good but PCLinuxOS is excellent as well and one of the friendliest ive been around.  When i first started with Linux in 2006 or so there were a lot of Linux snobs that didnt want to be troubled with helping crossover users such as myself. Ubuntu and Mepis forums were great back then.

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#27 2018-06-07 03:28

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

I'm back.
I forgot about Q4OS but now I re-discovered it and it seems excellent.
I know nothing about LINUX. I need to learn.
I am a WINDOWS DOS person wanting to move to LINUX. I am a retired mainframes system manager.

Q4OS automatically detects WIFI and all the close by hotspots and I can sign in on 3 PCS
On the 4th it says:

Wireless network card detected
Wifi support enabled

But then I see NO hotspots at all

I will need step by step instructions to get going.
Once I am running on all systems I can start learning.

Driver issues possibly ??

The system is a MSI U230 Light "old" AMD MV 40 processor
and a DOS program I ran says the wireless card is from REALTEK
but no other information.

Could Q4OS in some way tell me what exactly the situation is.

C1Steve

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#28 2018-06-07 07:26

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

Hi Steve, you could install the inxi package and then post some output here, you can install it either by using Synaptic Package Manager or by using this command in a Konsole

sudo apt install inxi

Once installed if you type in a Konsole this command

inxi -n

it should give some output that will tell us a  little about your network card, post it here and we should be able to help.

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#29 2018-06-07 18:07

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

Can I do this from the LIVE USB?

Thanks C1Steve appreciate the help.

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#30 2018-06-07 18:29

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

Yes that should work ok.

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#31 2018-06-07 19:50

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

I get the following message:

"unable to locate package inxi"

C1Steve

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#32 2018-06-07 19:58

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

You have only followed half the instructions, please install it first and then it will work.

EDIT: Sorry you will need to run

sudo apt update

first and then it will work. Sorry my bad...

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#33 2018-06-08 04:23

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

"sudo apt update" yields

a whole bunch of err:1

a whole bunch of w: failed to fetch http://ftp.debian. .......

Of course that wouldn't work because it already needs wifi.

C1Steve

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#34 2018-06-08 08:49

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

It looks like I have not understood the problem correctly, sorry, again my bad...

Do you have a wired connection you could use for installation (or to diagnose the problem at least)?

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#35 2018-06-08 16:42

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

I can rig up something but it will be Monday.

What should I do after I connect the cable.

Thank you for your support.

C1Steve

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#36 2018-06-08 16:59

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

You're welcome smile
Once you have a cable connected it will automatically pick up the network and you can install inxi and post the output of inxi -F after updating apt of course with sudo apt update. There is no need to upgrade as this is only for the live session and changes will be lost at reboot/shutdown.

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#37 2018-06-09 03:04

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

Thanks, I am partitioning a multi-boot system I have and I want to provide
a partition for Q4OS.

What type of partition should it be?
How big should it be? I will double or triple this.
Is a swap partition necessary.

C1Steve

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#38 2018-06-09 07:22

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

1. type = ext4 (there are other options but I always use this and it would be the default if you let the installer handle everything for you)

2. size = This would be entirely subjective, if you don't give enough room you would need to jump through some hoops later on to extend it, I use a non-standard method and usually assign anywhere from 10Gb (bare minimum) up to whatever space is available. keep in mind that if you want to install a lot of software to the system as well as keeping your documents/files etc then you would need to provide enough hdd space for this. The majority of my installations are between 20-30Gb for the OS and then I keep a separate partition for all my documents/files so that in the event of a re-installation (I do a lot of testing) I only have to add my data partition to a fresh install to have all my data available.

3. swap = Technically this is not a requirement but I do not run any systems without it, I usually use the equivalent space to my RAM capacity (between 2 and 4Gb on most of my machines) and this appears to be pretty much the norm from what I have read.

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#39 2018-06-09 19:20

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

I will use 32767 then. And if swap becomes necessary I will carve it out of that.

C1Steve

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#40 2018-06-09 22:16

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

here is the information:

Card1: Realink RT3090 Wireless 80211.N
1T/1R PCIE

If: WLP2050 State Down
MAC 40:61:86:A3:A5:A7

So does this mean it is down because it isn't configured (properly)
Or because there is an hardware problem? Or what?

C1Steve

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#41 2018-06-09 22:53

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

Is that the full output?

can you post the output of

sudo rfkill list

Also you should install firmware-misc-nonfree (if it is not already installed)

sudo apt install firmware-misc-nonfree

Last edited by Dai_trying (2018-06-09 23:07)

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#42 2018-06-10 03:40

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

adding to previous

sudo rfkill list

0: phy0: wireless lan
    soft blocked no
    hard blocked yes

after installing firmware

0 upgraded
0 newly installed
0 to to remove and
5 not upgraded

then inxi -n again and it is still down

C1Steve

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#43 2018-06-10 09:17

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

Is there a switch to turn on/off WiFi?

On my laptop I can turn off WiFi using Fn+PrtScr although this particular key combination is unlikely to work for you but there might be a similar function with yours.

Also have you checked in the bios to make sure there is no option that has disabled the WiFi?

You could try

rfkill unblock all

but I would imagine it not to have any effect as it is hard blocked (hardware) and not soft blocked (software)

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#44 2018-06-10 19:04

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

Good info that hard blocked means hardware disabled.
I tried the two function keys that might have trrned it on/off but no joy.
There are no settings in bios concerning wifi one way or the other.
It would be too complicated to dis-assemble the NETBOOK IT IS to put
in another wifi card, the last time I tried that I bricked another netnook.

I am going to look around for a USB STICK wifi adapter.

C1Steve, thanks

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#45 2018-06-10 19:26

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

It WORKS it WORKS now.

After power cycle rebooting and hitting FCT-F8 that turned wifi on and now it is fine.

I should have thought of that long ago, anyway.

Thank you for reminding me of the FCT keys.

C1Steve

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#46 2018-06-10 19:48

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Re: Q4OS Live Stick WIFI connect

Great news! I'm glad we got it sorted, and you are very welcome smile

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