My thoughts on Q4OS with Wayland

Manessa · Yesterday 17:18

Hello, dear users and developers. I would like to share with you my experience with Q4OS 5 with Wayaland. First, let me tell you about my laptop: it is an MSI Modern 15 with 8 GB of RAM and a 6-core 12th generation Intel processor. So, here's what I want to say. I use Q4OS 5 with KDE. My experience has been fantastic; it works just great. I can say that this is the best OS for my laptop. Recently, I installed Wayland on it. And what I want to say is that with Wayland, the experience has become even better. I often play undemanding games, and my experience has shown that Wayland performs excellently. To be honest, I thought Wayland was unfinished, but it fits perfectly and really works better than x11.
I have Q4OS 5 Full Profile.
I simply advise everyone to install Veilond so that your experience with Q4OS will only bring you joy. I hope Veilond will be included in Q4OS 6. So I also ask the developers to include Veilond by default in their Plasma images.

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Manessa · Yesterday 17:22

I would also like to note that I use a regular office laptop, which you could say is budget-friendly, but believe me, friends, the Veylon protocol works wonders.

q4osteam · Yesterday 19:31

Yes, Wayland will be the default display server in Q4OS-6.

crosscourt · Yesterday 19:38

@Manessa, youre using a 12th gen Intel system so Wayland should perform very well for you, but thats not the case for many others.
Older hardware particularly Intel graphics dont work well with Wayland even with XWayland in use. Some of my hardware prefers X11 to work properly.
Dont know the specs of your regular office laptop, but Im going to guess that they are fairly recent, thus Wayland will perform pretty well.

Manessa · Yesterday 19:50

crosscourt wrote:

@Manessa, youre using a 12th gen Intel system so Wayland should perform very well for you, but thats not the case for many others.
Older hardware particularly Intel graphics dont work well with Wayland even with XWayland in use. Some of my hardware prefers X11 to work properly.
Dont know the specs of your regular office laptop, but Im going to guess that they are fairly recent, thus Wayland will perform pretty well.

Let me put it this way: I have a main computer with the Plasma version, which is an AMD A8 8650B, but it has 16 GB of RAM. I must say that Wayland also showed good results there, although the processor is not that modern, but Wayland works well there.

q4osteam · Yesterday 19:53

X11 will be an optional, however fixed part of the basic installation, so everyone will be enabled to switch easily.

crosscourt · Yesterday 19:57

Its more about what graphics chip you are using as it varies a lot with older systems. In my case Ive got some older Intel IGPS and my HP Elitedesk 705 G4 with a Ryzen 5 2400g(apu) and they despise Wayland., XWayland isnt any help. X11 runs very well with no issues, so its a bit of a mixed bag.
My concern is some systems may not work with Wayland and we end up making thousands of systems obsolete. In the short term it can be handled but over time X11 will simply fall away.

Manessa · Yesterday 20:02

crosscourt wrote:

Its more about what graphics chip you are using as it varies a lot with older systems. In my case Ive got some older Intel IGPS and my HP Elitedesk 705 G4 with a Ryzen 5 2400g(apu) and they despise Wayland., XWayland isnt any help. X11 runs very well with no issues, so its a bit of a mixed bag.
My concern is some systems may not work with Wayland and we end up making thousands of systems obsolete. In the short term it can be handled but over time X11 will simply fall away.

That's very strange. I'll say this: my ancient A8 8650в with Wayland works fine with a Radeon R7, but I haven't noticed any problems. As I was told, Wayland is just a protocol, and there are lots of implementations of it. Maybe you should try Mate or LXQT? Because Kwin is heavier than other implementations.

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crosscourt · Yesterday 20:03

Interestingly, my Lenovo Thinkcentre M73 Tiny(4th gen Intel cpu) with Intel IGP works very well with Wayland in KDE Neon, go figure.

Manessa · Yesterday 20:05

crosscourt wrote:

Interestingly, my Lenovo Thinkcentre M73 Tiny(4th gen Intel cpu) with Intel IGP works very well with Wayland in KDE Neon, go figure.

Where is it optimized well, I heard

crosscourt · Yesterday 20:08

I cant really confirm that but yes its possible it is very well optimized in KDE Neon. It may also be that some Intel IGPs with different designs or older versions simply react differently to Wayland.

Manessa · Yesterday 20:12

crosscourt wrote:

I cant really confirm that but yes its possible it is very well optimized in KDE Neon. It may also be that some Intel IGPs with different designs or older versions simply react differently to Wayland.

In my case, I am currently writing with an Intel Core i3 1215 U 12th generation with 6 cores, and I can say that Velond works best on it. But I think it all depends on its implementation in a specific distribution.

crosscourt · Yesterday 20:17

Im not sure its the implementation as Ive tested my systems with what are considered good Wayland versions in different distros and really nothing has changed. Some hardware works, some hardware doesnt. In this forum youve got people with systems 15 years old and newer so its not surprising that compatibility problems happen. XWayland is suppose to act as a compatibility layer for dependent X11 hardware but thats not always worked very well.

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