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#101 2020-09-22 01:02

danielson
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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

Sorry guys, but i'm steering away from anything Canonical.

MX Linux and Manjaro are two prominent indicators to confirm my "intuition".

Btw, i was quite impressed by FerenOS initially based on LinuxMint but now going straight to Ubuntu.
No more FerenOS for me.

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#102 2020-09-22 03:46

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

Tried Quark last night on an eMachines eME528, 2.20 GHz, 4 GB RAM, Intel Celeron.  (ACER board)

Quark seemed to install okay, but upon rebooting, stuck on black screen with cursor and would not respond to terminal commands.

Fell back on simply wiping the drive by installing Q4OS 64 bit Trinity, followed by the XPQ4 theme utility.

Installed without a hitch.

Writing this entry with that machine. 

Disappointed with the Quark attempt, but Q4OS Trinity 64 bit is running fine so far.

I appreciate your work! 


Danke!


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#103 2020-09-22 08:00

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

danielson wrote:

Sorry guys, but i'm steering away from anything Canonical.

You are more than welcome to use Q4OS, Debian based forever.

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#104 2020-09-22 11:27

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

The first stable Quark 20.04 version has been released, see announcement
https://sourceforge.net/p/quark-os/blog … uark-2004/

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#105 2020-09-22 23:59

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

@Q4OSteam,

Will the XP Theme package (e.g. XPQ4) work with Ubuntu Quark?


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#106 2020-09-23 08:54

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

Unfortunately we didn't test that, as this is an independent project.

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#107 2020-09-23 08:56

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

We would like to redirect any discussion about Ubuntu Quark to the dedicated forum at SourceForge https://sourceforge.net/p/quark-os/discussion/

This topic will be closed subsequently.

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#108 2020-10-02 13:45

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

Hello Q4OS team.

I've tried to access the Quark-OS link (above) you have provided.

But it looks like I may need to sign up to Sourceforge as well.

TBH - I like the name & I like where it is going.

Screenshot-20201002-020332.png

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#109 2020-10-06 11:25

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

@Qwertius - is that Quark's Latin name? smile

Yup, had to look up for the right link too.

One "major" issue for me, is that new global themes fail to work properly or not at all.
Debonaire is fine by me (anything that doesn't remind me of Windows) though.

- - - - -

+1 to this new iteration recommended by someone at Gizmo's forum.

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#110 2020-11-15 18:46

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

There arent any posts on the Quark forum presently.


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#111 2020-12-02 16:58

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

Will this become a regularly supported Q4OS version down the road, just like the Debian based versions?


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#112 2021-08-07 17:07

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

I too would appreciate an answer to this since it's the biggest post on here and IMO deserves a response after all this time. Either Quark continues and develops or it doesn't. No big deal either way but the Q4 faithful and other potential users need this information to decide their own user strategy.

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#113 2021-08-07 19:06

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

I actually stopped using it as I got tired of waiting to see what would happen. Im only using Gemini KDE at this point.


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#114 2021-08-08 07:53

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

Since a lot of Linux projects are struggling for resources it makes sense to me that Quark be killed off in favor of the main distro. You can dress up a standard KDE to look like Quark in just a few minutes anyway if this is what appeals to people but it would still be nice to know.

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#115 2021-08-08 08:26

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

It is worth remembering that not only is Quark running KDE, it is also running TDE and shoe-horning them both to work in Ubuntu is a bit of a challenge.

There are a number of differences between Ubuntu and Debian and those differences are not decreasing.

Q4OS does incorporate a number of useful tools - usually for putting things right after someone has broken something smile
These may well need re-working for the Ubuntu universe.

I suspect that right now they are more focussed on Gemini KDE and TDE with Bullseye going live in less than 2 weeks.

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#116 2021-08-08 19:12

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

No offense but my original post was from 12/2020 so its been awhile. Not picking on the devs at all, as they can decide what path they wish to travel. Just want to know if theres going to be a path down the road or not. Agree with BonusBrain's comments as it does make a lot more sense to kill it off and concentrate on their main project. Im only interested in the KDE version so if it doesnt happen thats ok.


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#117 2021-08-11 09:47

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

We are focusing on Q4OS Gemini, right. However Quark 20.04 is active and up to date.

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#118 2021-09-24 11:21

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

Worth noting there are new media at https://sourceforge.net/projects/quark-os/files/stable/ dated 1st September.

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#119 2021-09-24 16:34

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

Already moved on bin as Im using Gemini right now,thanks for the heads up.

Last edited by crosscourt (2021-09-24 19:02)


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#120 2021-09-25 11:55

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

The bizarre thing is that I actually find Quark with Plasma 5.18 to be a far 'nicer' experience than Gemini with 5.20 or 5.22

Not sure why - it makes no sense - but I find myself thinking 'OK I could use this'. But somehow the Debian Plasma experience just isn't there.

I hope the Q4OS dev team keep this thread open - and perhaps create a subsection on this forum for Quark. There's nothing worse than going to a forum and seeing on a couple of posts (or nothing) in between the dust and tumbleweed - as in Sourceforge. At least here there's always something going on! Also you get a lot of cross fertilisation of ideas and solutions this way.

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#121 2021-09-25 18:56

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

Thats the reason I liked Quark(nicer experience) and was inquiring as to its status.


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#122 2021-09-27 01:05

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

Might still give it as look with recent version.


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#123 2021-09-27 06:23

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

The problem with Linux always has been there is too much of it. Too many distros, too many desktop choices, too many forks and too much confusion.

Looking from the perspective of new users to Linux or those with only basic knowledge, if they end up with one of the most promoted Arch based distros such as Manjaro, Endeavour or Garuda it’s little wonder their journey back to Windows happens fairly quickly. The same applies when folks install something designed to work as a server such as Alma, Springdale or Rocky and then bolt a KDE desktop onto it.

Not always though do KDE specific distros offer a premier experience. Anyone who has tried to live with KaOS or Nitrux will know what I mean.

Additionally some of the better ones such as Kanotix, Trisquel or Neptune hardly ever feature in the Linux media so most potential users have never heard of them.

For me the standout complete system for KDE is ALT  KWorkstation, an independent distribution designed and maintained by one of the biggest development teams in the Linux world. Their Xfce version “Simply Linux” is also worth a look. Their whole focus in on producing something capable of serving a corporate environment and I’ve never known the KDE system at least to break.

Should also mention one of the last remaining ‘truly different’ independent distros, blackPanther although as of recently the developer is requiring a ‘donation’ before you can download it which technically makes it no longer free. This is a real shame and suggests the end might be near for this project which is also very sad.

Back to Q4OS which is also unique in it’s own way and appeals to me since most of the clutter has already been removed and what else I do need is quick and easy to install. IMO this is the perfect distro for home users. It’s rock solid, low maintenance, fast in operation and efficient to use since you only get what you want and not a ton of other stuff someone else thinks you might need.

Finally to Quark and it’s a real shame this doesn’t get more exposure. It will be worse still if this release ends up being the last since IMO there is a genuine need for this type of Ubuntu based system if only more people knew of its existence. I bet a lot of Kubuntu users would change in an instant if they only knew about it.

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#124 2021-09-27 12:28

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

BonusBrain wrote:

Back to Q4OS which is also unique in it’s own way and appeals to me since most of the clutter has already been removed and what else I do need is quick and easy to install. IMO this is the perfect distro for home users. It’s rock solid, low maintenance, fast in operation and efficient to use since you only get what you want and not a ton of other stuff someone else thinks you might need


As a long time Windows user, that is precisely my opinion.

Now, if only I could devise an easy way to install Q4OS on a virtual disk alongside Windows (which I can't really forego, as it is required by my work), I would be a very happy man...

As it is, I keep following the Q4OS news here and attempting to set it up on my own, without causing too much breakage.

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#125 2021-09-27 15:44

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Re: Ubuntu Quark 20.04

Ah the delights of dual booting or VM installations where Windows is also involved.

You could try installing Q4 to an external drive. USB3 enclosures are pretty cheap as are 120 SSD’s to fit in one. Just pay special attention to the drives/partitions listed during install so you don’t end up overwriting anything on your internal drive. You might also find the machine then won’t boot unless the external drive is also plugged in and/or it won’t be possible to plug this into another machine and use it without some additional configuration. I’ve done this successfully with other Debian based systems but never with Q4.

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