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#1 2021-08-03 03:55

tlmiller76
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New Q4OS computer

So, recently moved Q4OS off from my old machine onto the newer machine.  This is a REALLY nice machine, Chuwi GemiBook Pro.  It's got a Gemini Lake Refresh Celeron J4125, 10-watt desktop celeron, but still lower power draw than most of the "low power" mainline desktops (aka - U series processors that are 15-watt mostly).  So it's not passively cooled, but the fans are QUIET, and I can't hear them with ANYTHING making noise in the room.  It's got 16GB (dual channel) soldered LPDDR4 2133.  Slow for LPDDR ram, but losts of it.  It came wiht a 512GB SSD, I upgraded it to a 1TB for no particular reason (I don't use ANYWHERE near it).  The best feature of course (and this is normal for Chuwi laptops) is hte 2160x1440 (3:2 aspect) LCD.  Bright, clear, and just absolutely GORGEOUS.  And this retails for around $400!!!  No ethernet (which is the one pain for installing Q4OS since the wireless app is so horrendously outdated and doesn't support WPA1/2/3 on any reasonably modern wireless chipsets), but the wireless isn't some el'cheapo 1x1 wifi-5 solution, it's a full on 2x2 Wifi-6!!  The Intel AX200!!

Anyway, enough of me fawning over the laptop, here's me desktop, Q4OS 4, Trinity.  Mostly stock-ish still, although I did obviously switch to a network management application that supports technologies developed in the last 20 years...

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Q4OS machine - Chuwi GemiBook Pro.  Celeron J4125, 16GB LPDDR4, 1TB m.2 SATA SSD, Intel AX200 Wifi6 + BT 5.0, 2160x1440 14" LCD

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#2 2021-08-03 12:44

Midas
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Re: New Q4OS computer

Cool! Is Chuwi making anything beefier than Celerons keeping the frugal power consumption?

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#3 2021-08-03 14:03

tlmiller76
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Re: New Q4OS computer

Midas wrote:

Cool! Is Chuwi making anything beefier than Celerons keeping the frugal power consumption?

Well, they do have several laptops that have Cores, but of course when you move from a 6/10-watt to a 15-watt CPU, you're going to lose a lot of that frugality.  The W-series (full core technology but declocked so that it could run 4.5-6 watt passively cooled) basically stopped existing in anything but tablets after 7th generation, so if power efficiency is important, you really don't have too many choices nowadays.

That said, the modern Celerons are pretty decent.  In benchmarks this CPU pretty consistently beat a core-i5 mobile 1st generation in almost everything.  No, it's nothing that's going to set the world alight, but that's definitely USABLE level performance.  And Jasper Lake is supposed to have something on the order of 30% improvement in IPC, if only I could find a laptop built on it that wasn't total garbage.


Q4OS machine - Chuwi GemiBook Pro.  Celeron J4125, 16GB LPDDR4, 1TB m.2 SATA SSD, Intel AX200 Wifi6 + BT 5.0, 2160x1440 14" LCD

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#4 2021-08-04 18:10

Midas
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Re: New Q4OS computer

Thanks for the insight, appreciated. smile

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#5 2021-08-04 19:30

crosscourt
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Re: New Q4OS computer

Nice setup and wallpaper!


Q4OS Gemini KDE   Dell Latitude 3340 i3 1.7ghz/3340 1.4ghz celeron, 8gb ddr3, 256gb Adata SSD

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#6 2021-09-14 13:34

goldbergeliah
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Re: New Q4OS computer

I am sorry to say that all the celerons computer I have had in my live gave me hell of a trouble. At present having an extra HP laptop, two years old, with some 1200 Gz Celeron CPU  it takes years to opean a simple window be it a word document or a web browser under Windows 10. To me one should avoid any computer running under celeron like pleague and run for the mountains!

Thanks to Q4OS, this HP laptop runs decently with Trinity 64 bit version! I tried Linux Mint, Pardus (Turkish Debian Fork) and some other but no distro work this laptop like Q4OS does.

Thank you guys.

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#7 2021-09-14 15:55

crosscourt
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Re: New Q4OS computer

Im using a Dell Latitude 3340 with a 1.4ghz dual core Celeron and it runs great with Win10 and Q4OS Gemini KDE. Im using 8gb of ram and a 256gb SSD.
If youre laptop is running a 5400rpm standard drive it will run ike a slug. My laptop was released in late 2014 so its not a newer system yet Win1o runs extremely well. Tlmillers system is running a far newer Celeron that beats my Celeron by a mile.


Q4OS Gemini KDE   Dell Latitude 3340 i3 1.7ghz/3340 1.4ghz celeron, 8gb ddr3, 256gb Adata SSD

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#8 2021-09-28 07:28

BonusBrain
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Re: New Q4OS computer

crosscourt wrote:

Tlmillers system is running a far newer Celeron that beats my Celeron by a mile.

This is a very valid point in general.

In my part of the world there is a whole bunch of locally made desktops being advertised with i7's at very attractive prices. Problem is to the unaware these are only second generation processors no doubt bought up cheaply because of that. A 10th generation i3 will give much better performance, use a fraction of the power and won't need a fan that sounds like an express train to keep it cool. I can tell just by looking at some of the cabinets on offer, especially the SFF units, they are going to overheat big time during heavy load.

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#9 2021-09-28 20:08

crosscourt
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Re: New Q4OS computer

I still use i5 third generation cpus in my Dell 7010 systems and they run very well. You would be surprised that for everyday use, many older generation Intel cpus do pretty well even compared to more recent offerings. These systems are very quiet, and depending on the model of cpu dont typically use more than 55-65w.
The USFF version of this system is whisper quiet, uses a i3 3220 cpu and heat/power isnt an issue. My SFFs use the i5 3450 and the cabinets/cases dont warm and theres virtually no fan noise, but it does use 77w.. Even my full desktop version of the 7010 that has a much better video card in it, doesnt run hot at all.
My newer systems use the 4th and 6th generation Intel cpus and in particular the 6th gen cpus perform as well as recent cpus in general use.
If youre gaming or doing editing youll see bigger differences and then newer cpus may be a better choice.


Q4OS Gemini KDE   Dell Latitude 3340 i3 1.7ghz/3340 1.4ghz celeron, 8gb ddr3, 256gb Adata SSD

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#10 2021-09-29 13:10

BonusBrain
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Re: New Q4OS computer

I have a variety of machines for both business and home use but the one I use most is a Dell Vostro 3681 small desktop with i3 10100. Although I’m from the UK I’ve lived in Brazil now for 16 years and most of what you can buy here is poorly made and highly overpriced. The Dells too are twice what you pay anywhere else but at least the quality and reliability is better. I doubled the memory and installed a NVMe drive, using the 1TB original just for storage. It’s very quiet but I do get some slight vibration. This might be due to the nature of the desk it runs on but I fixed it by putting a piece of foam backed carpet under it.

My desktop.

https://imgur.com/a/shcO2L0

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