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#51 2018-01-23 21:14

jackdanielsesq
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Re: Spectre and meltdown- What you need to know going forward

I am amazed we ever ever survived the Y2K meltdown ....:lol:

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#52 2018-01-23 21:19

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Re: Spectre and meltdown- What you need to know going forward

I was living in Wash DC and everyone was running around with their heads cut off back in the Y2K crisis, it was funny to watch!

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#53 2018-01-23 21:57

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Re: Spectre and meltdown- What you need to know going forward

crosscourt wrote:

I was living in Wash DC and everyone was running around with their heads cut off back in the Y2K crisis, it was funny to watch!

I remember that, it was funny, I was in the same area at the time.


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#54 2018-01-23 23:08

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I kid you not, Ive never seen so many people panicked in my life when in fact ths situation was far more under control than they realized.

The countdown came and watching peoples reactions I just couldnt control my laugh, priceless.

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#55 2018-01-24 10:49

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Re: Spectre and meltdown- What you need to know going forward

From your posts, It would appear you have plenty of practice with 'the sky is falling, end of the world is nigh' scenario.

I tend to side with the conservative Torvalds - knee-jerk reactions everywhere - even Intel CEO dumping stock before
they went to public disclosure - and other wonks even creating new problems where none existed prior to - MS/AMD


Dont become part of the hysteria, problem, and dont shoot the messenger - simply leave it to the pros - enjoy life.

Regards

Jack

PS - I am sure that were one to dig deep enough into our DNA, one would probably detect a trace of Neanderthal

crosscourt wrote:

I kid you not, Ive never seen so many people panicked in my life when in fact ths situation was far more under control than they realized.

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#56 2018-01-24 13:20

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Re: Spectre and meltdown- What you need to know going forward

Y2K? I remember that. The company I worked for had me so busy installing upgrades on 300+ computers that I didn't have time to be worried! smile
I do often wonder if the world ended then and I just didn't know it!

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#57 2018-01-24 14:11

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Re: Spectre and meltdown- What you need to know going forward

It did, methinks - thats when the halfbreed arrived

JimW wrote:

Y2K? I do often wonder if the world ended then and I just didn't know it!

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#58 2018-01-24 14:48

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Re: Spectre and meltdown- What you need to know going forward

Just remember Y2K was nothing compared to that zombie outbreak we had here back in 1968 in Western Pa....! LoL,,!

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#59 2018-01-24 15:06

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Re: Spectre and meltdown- What you need to know going forward

Calling the 535 morons currently in Congress zombies is cold, but splendidly accurate

Regards

Jack

CaptNoize wrote:

Just remember Y2K was nothing compared to that zombie outbreak we had here back in 1968 in Western Pa....! LoL,,!

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#60 2018-01-24 17:43

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I wouldn't insult the undead by calling them"politicians"......

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#61 2018-01-24 21:03

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LoL!

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#62 2018-01-25 05:18

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Re: Spectre and meltdown- What you need to know going forward

A recent article in the Dominion Post reported that Nancy Pelosi has sued Wellington Hospital, saying that after
her husband had surgery there, he lost all interest in sex.
A hospital spokesman replied: "Your husband was admitted for cataract surgery.
All we did was correct his eyesight.”

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#63 2018-01-25 10:58

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Lmao..,!

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#64 2018-01-25 21:28

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Crazy!!

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#65 2018-02-02 06:44

jackdanielsesq
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Re: Spectre and meltdown- What you need to know going forward

Finally a more realistic take on all the Intel S&M noise - its exactly as Torvalds reiterated previously - a big ol' nothing
burger - especially if one is running a 'newer' kernel - who isnt, these days - besides the hit is minimal anyway, even
if y'all sinners are still using last weeks flavor - rest easy, men

"According to some recent benchmarks done by a user on some Linux systems running newer kernel versions on a
particular network-heavy load, the recently released Linux 4.15 kernel appears to be between 7 and 9 percent faster
than Linux kernel 4.11.

But if the new KPTI (Kernel Page-Table Isolation) patches that mitigate the recently discovered Meltdown security
vulnerability are enabled on the Linux 4.15 kernel, then the performance is just 1 or 2 percent slower than on
systems running Linux kernel 4.11."

Regards

Jack


http://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-sy … 9639.shtml

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#66 2018-02-02 18:38

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Re: Spectre and meltdown- What you need to know going forward

Its not as big a deal for a single pc user but for servers its a big deal. Bios/firmware changes are the best line of defense, with microcode next and patches last.

The fixes presently are enabled in the LTS kernel releases such as 4.4, 4.9,4.14 but some distros have released customized versions based on the 4.13 like Mint. Certainly if youre using 4.15 youre ok for the time being. Agree performance issues were overblown as we are back to performance levels about the same as the 4.11 kernel.

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