Problems downloading software and language packages

gianlezz · 2025-05-20 23:25

Hello. My name is Gianluca, I installed Q4OS (Q4OS Aquarius, Trinity, i386 from the install-cd iso) yesterday. First time using Q4 and using a Debian-based distro.
I installed it in my main laptop, a 2006 Toshiba Satellite L35 that was originally running Windows 7 32bit.
Installation went completely fine, but some minor problems started to happen once I first booted into the operating system. It first asked me to download the Spanish lang pack, but it failed after two or three minutes trying with a "check internet connection" generic message.
Then I tried using the Desktop Profiler, with similar results (error 104). After trying [sudo apt update] a couple of times, and disconnecting and reconnecting the Wi-Fi, it finally let me use the profiler.
Rebooted, and had the exact same "no connection" problem again when trying to install Firefox from the Software Centre. I tried installing firefox-esr from the terminal and it did download it with no issues, though.
Does anyone know what the issue might be? Internet connection seems to work fine when using the web browser (albeit a bit slow but it is expected from a nearly 20 year old WiFi adapter) and when pinging deb.debian.org and q4os.org

Attached I will leave the output of inxi -Fxxxr

System:
  Host: q4os-desktop Kernel: 6.1.0-35-686-pae arch: i686 bits: 32
    compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 Desktop: Trinity v: R14.1.1 tk: Qt v: 3.5.0
    info: kicker wm: Twin v: 3.0 vt: 7 dm: 1: TDM 2: XDM Distro: Q4OS 5.8.1-n1
    base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite L35 v: PSL33U-04801X
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Satellite L35 serial: <superuser required>
    BIOS: TOSHIBA v: 3.10 date: 10/24/2007
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 0% condition: 968.5/29.6 Wh (3271.9%) volts: 15.3
    min: 14.8 model: TOSHIBA PA3450U-1BRS type: Li-ion serial: 10227
    status: not charging
CPU:
  Info: single core model: Intel Celeron M 440 bits: 32 arch: M Yonah rev: C
    cache: L1: 64 KiB L2: 1024 KiB
  Speed (MHz): 1866 min/max: N/A core: 1: 1866 bogomips: 3733
  Flags: nx pae sse sse2 sse3
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD RC410M [Mobility Radeon Xpress 200M] vendor: Toshiba
    driver: radeon v: kernel arch: Rage-8 ports: active: LVDS-1 empty: VGA-1
    bus-ID: 01:05.0 chip-ID: 1002:5a62 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: radeon
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: r300 gpu: radeon display-ID: :0
    screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1280x800 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 338x211mm (13.31x8.31")
    s-diag: 398mm (15.69")
  Monitor-1: LVDS-1 mapped: LVDS model: Seiko Epson 0x3641 res: 1280x800
    hz: 60 dpi: 98 size: 331x207mm (13.03x8.15") diag: 390mm (15.4") modes:
    max: 1280x800 min: 640x480
  API: OpenGL v: 2.1 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: ATI RC410 direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio vendor: Toshiba
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:437b
    class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-35-686-pae status: kernel-api
  Server-1: PulseAudio v: 16.1 status: active
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
    vendor: Toshiba driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 port: a000 bus-ID: 09:02.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8139 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp9s2 state: down mac: 00:1b:24:3d:43:4e
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR2413/AR2414 Wireless Network Adapter
    [AR5005G 802.11bg] vendor: Askey driver: ath5k v: kernel bus-ID: 09:04.0
    chip-ID: 168c:001a class-ID: 0200
  IF: wlp9s4 state: up mac: 00:1b:9e:01:3e:33
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 6.91 GiB (1.5%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS727550A9E364 size: 465.76 GiB
    speed: 1.5 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: J3360081G4P71D rev: A0E0
    scheme: MBR
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 456.44 GiB used: 6.91 GiB (1.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 975 MiB used: 776 KiB (0.1%) priority: -2
    dev: /dev/sda5
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 65.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 1814
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/10_q4os.list
    1: deb http://q4os.org/q4repo q4os-5-0-cn main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/12_qtde.list
    1: deb http://q4os.org/qtderepo bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/20_debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    3: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/30_debian_backports.list
Info:
  Processes: 151 Uptime: 1h 9m wakeups: 1 Memory: 1.84 GiB
  used: 873.4 MiB (46.4%) Init: systemd v: 252 target: graphical (5)
  default: graphical Compilers: N/A Shell: Bash v: 5.2.15 running-in: konsole
  inxi: 3.3.26
giantoshiba35@q4os-desktop:~$

gianlezz · 2025-05-21 04:11

Okay, after messing a bit with [sudo apt update] I noticed that it would not work most of the time but with a few exceptions. Then I decided to go to the two URLs that were failing [https //q4os-org/q4repo] and [https //q4os-org/qtderepo] (dots and colons replaced because the forum wouldn't allow me to put the repo urls) and they both show as a blank page with a text saying "page not available ..." when visited from a web browser. Then I decided to check the URL that didn't fail any time [http //deb-debian-org/debian] and it displayed the file index correctly.
Then I thought "maybe the Q4OS repo doesn't have the ability to be displayed in a web browser" so I decided to do wget on them and the following is the output of both:

giantoshiba35@q4os-desktop:~$ wget -p https://q4os.org/q4repo
pathconf: No es un directorio
--2025-05-20 22:18:04--  https://q4os.org/q4repo
Resolviendo q4os.org (q4os.org)... 2a02:4a8:ac24:108::96:231, 81.95.96.231
Conectando con q4os.org (q4os.org)[2a02:4a8:ac24:108::96:231]:443... conectado.
Petición HTTP enviada, esperando respuesta... 301 Moved Permanently
Localización: https://q4os.org/q4repo/ [siguiendo]
pathconf: No es un directorio
--2025-05-20 22:18:07--  https://q4os.org/q4repo/
Reutilizando la conexión existente a [q4os.org]:443.
Petición HTTP enviada, esperando respuesta... 403 Forbidden
2025-05-20 22:18:07 ERROR 403: Forbidden.

giantoshiba35@q4os-desktop:~$

and

giantoshiba35@q4os-desktop:~$ wget -p https://q4os.org/qtderepo
pathconf: No es un directorio
--2025-05-20 23:40:00--  https://q4os.org/qtderepo
Resolviendo q4os.org (q4os.org)... 2a02:4a8:ac24:108::96:231, 81.95.96.231
Conectando con q4os.org (q4os.org)[2a02:4a8:ac24:108::96:231]:443... conectado.
GnuTLS: La conexión TLS no se finalizó apropiadamente.
No se pudo establecer la conexión SSL.
giantoshiba35@q4os-desktop:~$

this is the output of wget in the Debian URL

giantoshiba35@q4os-desktop:~$ wget -p http://deb.debian.org/debian
--2025-05-20 23:50:37--  http://deb.debian.org/debian
Resolviendo deb.debian.org (deb.debian.org)... 2a04:4e42:33::644, 151.101.218.132
Conectando con deb.debian.org (deb.debian.org)[2a04:4e42:33::644]:80... conectado.
Petición HTTP enviada, esperando respuesta... 302 Found
Localización: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ [siguiendo]
--2025-05-20 23:50:37--  http://ftp.debian.org/debian/
Resolviendo ftp.debian.org (ftp.debian.org)... 2a04:4e42:33::644, 151.101.218.132
Reutilizando la conexión existente a [deb.debian.org]:80.
Petición HTTP enviada, esperando respuesta... 200 OK
Longitud: 6121 (6,0K) [text/html]
Grabando a: «deb.debian.org/debian»

deb.debian.org/debian                   100%[============================================================================>]   5,98K  --.-KB/s    en 0,002s

2025-05-20 23:50:38 (3,76 MB/s) - «deb.debian.org/debian» guardado [6121/6121]

ACABADO --2025-05-20 23:50:38--
Tiempo total de reloj: 0,6s
Descargados: 1 ficheros, 6,0K en 0,002s (3,76 MB/s)
giantoshiba35@q4os-desktop:~$

Then I tried apt updating two times, with around 40 minutes of difference between each and one time updated successfully, then the other failed again.

giantoshiba35@q4os-desktop:~$ sudo apt update
[sudo] contraseña para giantoshiba35:
Des:1 http://security.debian.org bookworm-security InRelease [48,0 kB]
Obj:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease
Obj:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease
Obj:4 https://q4os.org/q4repo q4os-5-0-cn InRelease
Obj:5 https://q4os.org/qtderepo bookworm InRelease
Descargados 48,0 kB en 20s (2.402 B/s)
Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
Creando árbol de dependencias... Hecho
Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho
Todos los paquetes están actualizados.
giantoshiba35@q4os-desktop:~$ sudo apt update
[sudo] contraseña para giantoshiba35:
Obj:1 http://security.debian.org bookworm-security InRelease
Obj:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease
Obj:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease
Ign:4 https://q4os.org/q4repo q4os-5-0-cn InRelease
Ign:5 https://q4os.org/qtderepo bookworm InRelease
Ign:4 https://q4os.org/q4repo q4os-5-0-cn InRelease
Ign:5 https://q4os.org/qtderepo bookworm InRelease
Ign:4 https://q4os.org/q4repo q4os-5-0-cn InRelease
Ign:5 https://q4os.org/qtderepo bookworm InRelease
Err:4 https://q4os.org/q4repo q4os-5-0-cn InRelease
  Could not wait for server fd - select (11: Recurso no disponible temporalmente) [IP: 2a02:4a8:ac24:108::96:231 443]
Err:5 https://q4os.org/qtderepo bookworm InRelease
  Could not wait for server fd - select (11: Recurso no disponible temporalmente) [IP: 2a02:4a8:ac24:108::96:231 443]
Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
Creando árbol de dependencias... Hecho
Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho
Todos los paquetes están actualizados.
W: Fallo al obtener http://q4os.org/q4repo/dists/q4os-5-0-cn/InRelease  Could not wait for server fd - select (11: Recurso no disponible temporalmente) [IP: 2a02:4a8:ac24:108::96:231 443]
W: Fallo al obtener http://q4os.org/qtderepo/dists/bookworm/InRelease  Could not wait for server fd - select (11: Recurso no disponible temporalmente) [IP: 2a02:4a8:ac24:108::96:231 443]
W: No se han podido descargar algunos archivos de índice, se han omitido, o se han utilizado unos antiguos en su lugar.
giantoshiba35@q4os-desktop:~$

I decided to check the forum after this and found out there were at least two people more that had connection issues, so maybe a server-side intermittent problem? I tried to wget the q4os URLs from my main PC running Linux Mint and got similar results.

q4osteam · 2025-05-21 10:44

Welcome to the forum

gianlezz wrote:

... maybe a server-side intermittent problem?

We didn't notice any intermittent failures of the Q4OS server. It works just smoothly. We guess the problem is with your wireless connection, or less likely somewhere on network path to the server. You could debug this path with "traceroute" command.

gianlezz wrote:

I decided to check the forum after this and found out there were at least two people more that had connection issues

Would you post links to these topics please ?

gianlezz wrote:

I tried to wget the q4os URLs from my main PC running Linux Mint and got similar results.

The command you ran "wget -p https://q4os.org/q4repo" never works. You sould run instead:

wget -p https://q4os.org/qtderepo/dists/bookworm/main/binary-amd64/Packages

gianlezz · 2025-05-21 22:19

Hello, thanks and thanks for the answer!
Okay, so yesterday after poking around for a bit I found out that the computer might actually be the one that holds the problem. When trying to install Wine from the winehq page with the commands required, I noticed the computer would not connect to the repository for Debian Bookworm. I decided to wget the winehq repo URL on both my main computer and the laptop and found out that it would work okay in my computer, but would not work in my laptop. I am currently writing this from my main computer, I will try the tutorial at

https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4698

as soon as possible.

-> Would you post links to these topics please ?

Sure, here are the topics I found yesterday

https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5356
https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5287
https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5331

I tried the [wget -p] you recommended me in the message (from my Linux Mint computer) and it does work correctly. Does this mean I have to update my laptop's sources.list? If so, what would be the correct URLs for it? Bear in mind my laptop is a 32bit system (Intel Celeron M440)

gianlezz · 2025-05-21 22:36

With "the computer would not connect to the repository for Debian Bookworm" I mean that the SSL connection fails (GnuTLS: La conexión no se finalizó apropiadamente. No se pudo establecer la conexión SSL.)
No error details other than literally that.

q4osteam · 2025-05-22 08:47

gianlezz wrote:

I tried the [wget -p] you recommended me in the message (from my Linux Mint computer) and it does work correctly. Does this mean I have to update my laptop's sources.list?

No, the default sources.list is perfect.

gianlezz wrote:

With "the computer would not connect to the repository for Debian Bookworm" I mean that the SSL connection fails (GnuTLS: La conexión no se finalizó apropiadamente. No se pudo establecer la conexión SSL.) No error details other than literally that.

It's caused by unreliable local network connection.

q4osteam wrote:

Would you post links to these topics please ?

All the topics discusses problems with local network connection. It has nothing to do with Q4OS server. Q4OS servers are very robust and run just fine.

gianlezz · 2025-05-23 09:06

Hello again!
After some search, some minor trial and error, I found out that [modprobe ath5k nohwcrypt=1] seems to make connections work as intended.
After running the command, I have tried wget-ing the WineHQ repo URL and works fine. I tried installing the codec libs and the missing lang-packs, apt update and upgrade, installing software from the Software Centre and Synaptic Manager, and everything works as intended!
Only thing I was not able to achieve though was wget-ing the qtderepo URL you provided me

giantoshiba35@q4os-desktop:~$ sudo wget -p https://q4os.org/qtderepo/dists/bookworm/main/binary-amd64/Packages
pathconf: No es un directorio
pathconf: No es un directorio
pathconf: No es un directorio
pathconf: No es un directorio
pathconf: No es un directorio
pathconf: No es un directorio
--2025-05-23 04:34:10--  https://q4os.org/qtderepo/dists/bookworm/main/binary-amd64/Packages
Resolviendo q4os.org (q4os.org)... 2a02:4a8:ac24:108::96:231, 81.95.96.231
Conectando con q4os.org (q4os.org)[2a02:4a8:ac24:108::96:231]:443... conectado.
Petición HTTP enviada, esperando respuesta... 200 OK
Longitud: 1015809 (992K)
q4os.org/qtderepo/dists/bookworm/main/binary-amd64: No es un directorio
q4os.org/qtderepo/dists/bookworm/main/binary-amd64/Packages: No es un directorio

No se puede escribir a «q4os.org/qtderepo/dists/bookworm/main/binary-amd64/Packages» (No es un directorio).
giantoshiba35@q4os-desktop:~$

The URL was able to be wget-ed in my main Linux MInt computer. Then again, everything else related to repositories seem to work fine *for now*. Should I worry I am not able to wget said URL?

The tutorials I followed are at

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=867118
https://askubuntu.com/questions/93296/wi-fi-with-ath5k-bad-connections-after-idle

It's probably not the best solution, but at the same time it's probably amongst the few solutions available for (probably)-legacy (probably)-proprietary hardware.
Everything related to using internet like navigating and stuff seems to work fine as well (in fact I'm writing from the 2006 Toshiba itself at this moment) I even managed to connect to YouTube and "watch" a video (at 2 fps at most but such are the quirks of old hardware haha).

I guess that unless not being able to access that URL becomes a problem, and that nohwcrypt=1 is a terrible idea, this case is solved.

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#1 2025-05-20 23:25

Problems downloading software and language packages

#2 2025-05-21 04:11

Re: Problems downloading software and language packages

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