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#1 2020-02-15 18:55

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Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

We introduce the initial development build of the new major Q4OS version 4, codenamed 'Gemini', please see release notes https://www.q4os.org/blog.html

Download from the testing site:
https://www.q4os.org/downloads2.html

Everybody is encouraged to download, test, report and use it as usually smile

Note: This is a testing version not intended for production deployment.

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#2 2020-02-16 07:33

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

Thanks very much for this guys!

As one who struggles with Plasma I've just got to ask the obvious - Do you plan on releasing a Dev version based on TDE 14.1.x development which is currently being used in exegnu's Devuan Beowulf based release?

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#3 2020-02-16 08:53

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

Thank you for the latest development version.

One small issue or questen: When I try to install codecs I get an errer that version 3.999 is the highest version alowed.

Are the codecs already on the ISO or is this a but?

PS: Where would you like to have reports and questions? Feel free to move this message to another place.

Last edited by svx-biker (2020-02-16 08:59)

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#4 2020-02-17 20:39

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

Hi, i try this in virtualbox and run very very very slow, the v 3.9 works fine, i hope that Q4OS 4.0 final will be run fine and this is only a beta problem.

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#5 2020-02-17 21:27

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

We are not able to reproduce it, Gemini runs as fast as Centaurus comparatively in Virtualbox. How much RAM did you allocate for the VM ?

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#6 2020-02-17 22:21

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

@svx-biker
Codecs installation failure is now fixed, you only need to run the installer once again.
You can post questions and reports here, on this General forum section, or feel free to choose whatever section you think.

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#7 2020-02-17 23:24

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

Hi, i ever use 2GB of ram and 2 real cores (2c/4h) for the VM of a i7 with 4 cores and 16GB of ram. v3.9 works fine but 4 is very slow.

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#8 2020-02-18 08:10

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

Gabo wrote:

... v3.9 works fine but 4 is very slow.

Which Virtualbox version ?
What actions are slow ? Would you describe one specific slower action and provide rough time comparison to Centaurus please ?
Anyone else noticed this issue ?

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#9 2020-02-18 09:24

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

I just tested 4.0 in qemu and everything seems to be working ok and no sign of being slow at all.

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#10 2020-02-20 15:11

Gabo
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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

I am using VB 6.0.12

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#11 2020-03-10 18:43

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

I wanted to try Gemini but ran into a couple of issues with the installer, don't know whether or not this is a known bug and been already dealt with but just thought you might want to know. Here some screenshots

gemini-install-error.png

First, it complaint that it couldn't find package install-debian. I rebooted and tried again

gemini-error.png

In the second and last attempt, it complaint that it couldn't create partitions or something like that. Don't know if related and/or because of but I was trying to install to a USB device which Centaurus did without problem.

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#12 2020-03-10 18:51

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

Thanks for the report, we are going to check that, however we are not able to reproduce such issues at the moment. Does your firmware feature UEFI or legacy BIOS ?

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#13 2020-03-10 21:49

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

q4osteam wrote:

Thanks for the report, we are going to check that, however we are not able to reproduce such issues at the moment. Does your firmware feature UEFI or legacy BIOS ?

No problem, glad to help. I think, is UEFI with Legacy support.

sudo dmidecode -t bios

gives

# dmidecode 3.2
Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs.
SMBIOS 2.7 present.

Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 24 bytes
BIOS Information
	Vendor: Insyde
	Version: F.34
	Release Date: 05/22/2013
	Address: 0xE0000
	Runtime Size: 128 kB
	ROM Size: 4096 kB
	Characteristics:
		PCI is supported
		BIOS is upgradeable
		BIOS shadowing is allowed
		Boot from CD is supported
		Selectable boot is supported
		BIOS ROM is socketed
		EDD is supported
		Japanese floppy for NEC 9800 1.2 MB is supported (int 13h)
		Japanese floppy for Toshiba 1.2 MB is supported (int 13h)
		5.25"/360 kB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
		5.25"/1.2 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
		3.5"/720 kB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
		3.5"/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
		8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
		CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
		ACPI is supported
		USB legacy is supported
		Targeted content distribution is supported
		UEFI is supported
	BIOS Revision: 15.52
	Firmware Revision: 105.23

Handle 0x000B, DMI type 13, 22 bytes
BIOS Language Information
	Language Description Format: Long
	Installable Languages: 5
		en|U
		|iso8859-1
		fr|CA|iso8859-1
		es|ES|iso8859-1
		zh|TW|unicode
	Currently Installed Language: fr|CA|iso8859-1

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#14 2020-03-22 07:52

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

ubuntu-quark-1.0-x64-testing.r1.iso in testing files on sourceforge
what is it?

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#15 2020-03-22 15:26

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

@non1979
It's an experimental image based on Ubuntu 20.04 Focal. We will provide an official description soon. Don't worry, Q4OS is, and always will be, based on Debian.

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#16 2020-03-25 09:41

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

Q4OS 4 Gemini live media iso image, revision ".r2", has been just released, download from https://www.q4os.org/downloads2.html .

Packages has been updated according to the Debian base. A new major version of the Q4OS Desktop profiler now features profiles export, import, packages list info, and other options.

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#17 2020-03-27 14:24

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

Those already on Gemini just update via Discover?


DELL Optiplex 7060 - 8G RAM.

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#18 2020-03-27 15:34

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

@danielson
Yes

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#19 2020-03-27 18:28

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

Whats the time line for a final release of this version, just a guess is fine.


Q4OS Aquarius 5.1 KDE   Lenovo Thinkcentre M900 Tiny i5-6500T, 16gb ddr4 ram, 512gb m.2 ssd

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#20 2020-03-29 11:07

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

@crosscourt
The same as for Debian Bullseye, a year or so.

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#21 2020-03-29 18:08

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

Thanks, smile


Q4OS Aquarius 5.1 KDE   Lenovo Thinkcentre M900 Tiny i5-6500T, 16gb ddr4 ram, 512gb m.2 ssd

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#22 2020-04-10 13:12

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

q4osteam wrote:

Q4OS 4 Gemini live media iso image, revision ".r2", has been just released, download from https://www.q4os.org/downloads2.html .

Packages has been updated according to the Debian base. A new major version of the Q4OS Desktop profiler now features profiles export, import, packages list info, and other options.

Nice job smile This one fixes this issue https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.ph … 418#p17418 I reported in post #11 and could finally and succesfully install gemini. I did have one problem tho; I wasn't able to install any package. I managed to fix it by editing 20_debian.list file in sources.list.d dir, basically just added "us" after ftp, so now it looks like this deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free and that solved it. Apart from that, Gemini it's running like a charm.

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#23 2020-04-10 13:40

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

Tolkem wrote:

I wasn't able to install any package. I managed to fix it by editing 20_debian.list file in sources.list.d dir, basically just added "us" after ftp, so now it looks like this deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free and that solved it.

Thanks for the report, however we are not able to reproduce the issue, packages install fine here. Do commands "apt update/upgrade/install" report errors ? What is the terminal output ?

Edit: Anyone else noticed the issue ?

Last edited by q4osteam (2020-04-10 13:50)

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#24 2020-04-10 16:32

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

q4osteam wrote:
Tolkem wrote:

I wasn't able to install any package. I managed to fix it by editing 20_debian.list file in sources.list.d dir, basically just added "us" after ftp, so now it looks like this deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free and that solved it.

Thanks for the report, however we are not able to reproduce the issue, packages install fine here. Do commands "apt update/upgrade/install" report errors ? What is the terminal output ?

Edit: Anyone else noticed the issue ?

Updating and upgrading worked fine but when wanted to install some packages it complaint that it could not find any packages or that they weren't available, something like that. I also tried to install from some .debs I have here and got "can't resolve dependencies" so I figured something was wrong with sources file, went here https://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ generate a new sources list and apply the changes just like I said in my previous post, after doing so I was able to install software. Later, I remembered I have a bullseye VM here, being playing with it like for a couple of months, just checked  and that line looks exactly like the one in the sources.list there:

bullseye.png

I could have used this instead of the website but forgot completely about it wink

Last edited by Tolkem (2020-04-10 16:34)

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#25 2020-04-25 12:26

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Re: Q4OS 4 Gemini - brand new development branch

Dear developers,

Looking for a lightweight distribution for a (very) old first generation netbook (Atom processor, little RAM, but with a hard disk that allows some evolution), I found your system on Distrowatch.
Coming from Manjaro32 (which I thought was absolutely great, but has been stuck for many months), having tested Archlinux32 (issues with packages not found in "pentium 4" architecture, so I had to tinker with it to finally encounter unsolvable problems, for me of course), now on antiX, I'm looking for a less stripped-down interface while keeping a very responsive OS.

My question, here it is: your last development version is (for the moment) not x86 compatible, will the final version be compatible please?

Thank you.

PS: I didn't know the Trinitity interface... good idea!

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