error messages

D.P.W. · 2018-02-11 15:24

Hi All,
I have just started to have a go at using Q4OS v2.4 scorpion 64 bit.
Everything has been ok for a couple of days but now i am getting these messages when i start up my laptop.
"will not save configuration,
configuration file "/home/david/.trinity/share/config/kdeglobals"not writable.
configuration file "/home/david/.trinity/share/config/update-managerrc"not writable
configuration file "/home/david/.trinity/share/config/kclock.kssrc"not writable
configuration file "/home/david/.trinity/share/config/kdesktop_lockrc"not writable
please contact your system administrator

Can anyone advise me how to sort it out ?.
David

crosscourt · 2018-02-11 17:58

If its corrupted that can be fixed but if youve got bad sectors/blocks that cant be fixed but can be avoided.

Look here and this can also be done using the livecd,
www.tecmint.com/check-linux-hard-disk-bad-sectors-bad-blocks/

My advice would be use a different hard drive you know is good and test the other drive to see if its worth salvaging.

Last edited by crosscourt (2018-02-11 17:59)

Dai_trying · 2018-02-11 18:45

Hi David, firstly is this on bare metal or in a VM?

It looks like it could be a simple permission problem but we can look further into that, can you open a terminal and type

ls -l ~/.trinity/share/config/

this should list the files in that directory. This will show who owns them (among other things) and a typical line would look something like this :-

-rw-r--r-- 1 dai dai  8070 Feb 11 17:26 kdeglobals

and your lines should look similar but with david instead of dai

If that is the case then we would need to run some further checks.

Last edited by Dai_trying (2018-02-11 18:45)

crosscourt · 2018-02-11 18:59

Had a thought it might be permissions but the issue came on suddenly so it looked more like hard drive issues. Hopefully its not the drive.

crosscourt · 2018-02-11 19:25

Thats why I mentioned the livecd above to avoid unfortunate additional issues.

Dai_trying · 2018-02-11 19:28

crosscourt wrote:

Thats why I mentioned the livecd above to avoid unfortunate additional issues.

Definitely the safest option.

Dai_trying · 2018-02-11 19:55

As I understand it the OP installed Q4OS and now has some issues as stated, but if this is (as a few of you suspect) bad HDD (or sectors at least) then performing more HDD operations could potentially do more harm than good, I would use the live-cd to ensure I'm not relying on or affecting the HDD we want to examine.
A different (and maybe over cautious) approach to yours but one I am more familiar with.

Dai_trying · 2018-02-11 20:16

This is a support forum and "having fun" with other peoples computers is not really the point here, I think we have some responsibility to offer clear and safe advice rather than suggest users do things that may (or may not) have a detrimental effect on them. I'm sure you will use your own system in ways that I would not but that is "your dime" and so your choice, not so for a user that may not have a spare machine (or HDD) to "have fun" with.

q4osteam · 2018-02-11 20:54

This topic has been moderated to be more valuable. Thanks all for the help.

q4osteam · 2018-02-11 21:00

Dai_trying wrote:

This is a support forum and "having fun" with other peoples computers is not really the point here, I think we have some responsibility to offer clear and safe advice rather than suggest users do things that may (or may not) have a detrimental effect on them...

Correct, thank you for your valuable guidance and helping users. Please keep the good work.

crosscourt · 2018-02-11 21:16

Completely agree Dai

Dai_trying · 2018-02-11 21:18

D.P.W. · 2018-02-12 17:01

Hi i have done this as suggested by Dai opened terminal program and typed in this
david@laptop:~$ 1s -1/.trinity/share/config/
and this is what came up

bash:1s: command not found
david@laptop:~$

When i started up my laptop today i had no error messages
On the bottom task bar there was a red gear shaped icon with a ! when i hovered over it there was a message saying there was updates available when i clicked on it i got this message
"Package system is busy not ready to install now Setup can not continue
The lock is caused very probably,by ongoing background system updates.If this is the case you have to wait a momment for package system to finish these operations.
please make sure you are not installing another application and repeat setup later"

I have waited over 1 hour but i still get the same message
Also when i click on synaptic package icon on the desktop it does not open.

JimW · 2018-02-12 17:08

That should be LS -L in lower case. Linux is case sensitive. It looks like you were typing 1(one)s -1, which it would not recognise.

Last edited by JimW (2018-02-12 17:08)

D.P.W. · 2018-02-12 17:16

Thanks for that i will try again later it looked like a 1 in Dai message

Dai_trying · 2018-02-12 18:46

You can copy and paste the code using Ctrl-c (for copy) and Ctrl-v (for paste), although to paste into a terminal you would need to use shift-insert (or shift-Ctrl-v)

EDIT:
Also for your newer problem (apt running) you could try issuing this command in a terminal:

ps aux | grep apt

and post the output here.
Please use code boxes when pasting terminal output (instructions are here if required)

Last edited by Dai_trying (2018-02-12 18:52)

D.P.W. · 2018-02-20 15:32

Hi All,
Sorry for delay in getting back to everyone not had a lot of time to spare so here is a update to my problem.
When i start up my laptop i now get this message

"Loading Q4OS operating system
Loading initial ramdisk
/dev/sda2: recovering journal
/dev/sda contains a file system with errors,check forced.
Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found.
/dev/sda2 contains a file system with errors,check forced

iodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found
/dev/sda2:unexpected inconsistency run fsck manually (i.e.without-a or-p option)
the root file system on/dev/sda2 requires a manual fsck"

Does the above mean my hard drive has packed up and needs replacing ?

Dai_trying · 2018-02-20 15:46

It could indicate the HDD is failing or it could also just mean the computer was not shut down correctly (ie power removed or forced shutdown using power button 5 secs). You could run fsck and that might give some better information. One thing to note is if you think the HDD could be failing grab yourself an external drive or some other suitable storage device and boot from a live-cd and backup everything you need/want just in case the hdd fails.

If you need to run fsck on your root partition (which cannot be done when mounted) you can type in a terminal

sudo touch /forcefsck

and then reboot and it should force a check before mounting it.

Whatever you decide to do I would advise you to back up anything you need first!

D.P.W. · 2018-02-20 16:06

Hi i found this on the internet
fsck /dev/sda6
(where /dev/sda6 is the partition mentioned)
I typed in the above changing the 6 for 2 as in the error message i had after doing that i rebooted and it booted up fine

I still have this problem
When i started up my laptop
On the bottom task bar there was a red gear shaped icon with a ! when i hovered over it there was a message saying there was updates available when i clicked on it i got this message
"Package system is busy not ready to install now Setup can not continue
The lock is caused very probably,by ongoing background system updates.If this is the case you have to wait a momment for package system to finish these operations.
please make sure you are not installing another application and repeat setup later"

There is nothing on the laptop that i need to back up the only O/S on it is Q4OS v2.4 scorpion 64 bit.

Last edited by D.P.W. (2018-02-20 16:10)

Dai_trying · 2018-02-20 16:12

you could try issuing this command in a terminal:

ps aux | grep apt

and post the output here. (or examine it yourself)

This will show what processes are using apt at the time of entering it, it could possibly be auto-updates as they are enabled by default and it might be that after this has finished the updates will have been performed and the update icon might either change to show no updates available or it might just disappear (indicating the same)

D.P.W. · 2018-02-20 16:26

Dai_trying wrote:

You can copy and paste the code using Ctrl-c (for copy) and Ctrl-v (for paste), although to paste into a terminal you would need to use shift-insert (or shift-Ctrl-v)
EDIT:
Also for your newer problem (apt running) you could try issuing this command in a terminal:
ps aux | grep apt
and post the output here.
Please use code boxes when pasting terminal output (instructions are here if required)

this is what i get

david@laptop:~$ ps aux | grep apt
avahi 421 0.0 0.0 47144 3428 ? Ss 14:36 0:00 avahi-daemon: running [laptop.local]
david 2283 0.0 0.6 559940 25804 ? Sl 14:36 0:00 kmix [tdeinit] -caption KMix -icon kmix -miniicon kmix
david 3987 0.0 0.0 12784 988 pts/1 S+ 15:23 0:00 grep apt
david@laptop:~$

Dai_trying · 2018-02-20 16:28

Looks like apt isn't running, have you tried the update icon again?

D.P.W. · 2018-02-20 16:29

Dai_trying wrote:

Hi David, firstly is this on bare metal or in a VM?
It looks like it could be a simple permission problem but we can look further into that, can you open a terminal and type
ls -l ~/.trinity/share/config/
this should list the files in that directory. This will show who owns them (among other things) and a typical line would look something like this :-
-rw-r--r-- 1 dai dai  8070 Feb 11 17:26 kdeglobals
and your lines should look similar but with david instead of dai
If that is the case then we would need to run some further checks.

this is what i get
david@laptop:~$ ls -l ~/.trinity/share/config/
total 380
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 569 Feb 12 16:02 clock_panelapplet_rc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 45 Oct 9 2001 cryptodefaults
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 148 Oct 9 2001 d3lphinrc
-rw------- 1 david david 154 Feb 6 15:12 emailidentities
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 1516 Oct 9 2001 gtkrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 1593 Oct 9 2001 gtkrc-2.0
-rw------- 1 david david 140 Feb 6 15:11 gwenviewrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 96 Feb 6 14:53 katerc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 238 Oct 9 2001 kateschemarc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 294 Oct 9 2001 katesyntaxhighlightingrc
-rw------- 1 david david 45 Feb 6 14:53 kcalcrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 77 Oct 9 2001 kcmartsrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 170 Feb 6 14:53 kcmdisplayrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 112 Feb 6 14:53 kcminputrc
-rw------- 1 david david 1121 Feb 7 14:57 kcmnspluginrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 122 Feb 6 14:53 kcookiejarrc
-rw------- 1 david david 42 Feb 6 14:53 kdedrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 7730 Feb 20 15:16 kdeglobals
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 1040 Feb 6 15:15 kdesktoprc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 239 Oct 9 2001 kdevtoolsrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 59 Feb 6 14:53 keditrc
-rw------- 1 david david 55 Feb 6 14:53 kfmclientrc
-rw------- 1 david david 95 Feb 6 15:11 kghostviewrc
-rw------- 1 david david 18276 Feb 6 14:54 khotkeysrc
-rw------- 1 david david 146 Feb 6 14:53 khotkeys_update
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 4087 Feb 20 15:16 kickerrc
-rw------- 1 david david 0 Feb 11 13:40 kickerrc.lockxwgvgD.tmp
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 76 Oct 9 2001 klcddimmerrc
-rw------- 1 david david 126 Feb 6 14:53 klipperrc
-rw------- 1 david david 59 Feb 6 15:12 kmail.eventsrc
-rw------- 1 david david 675 Feb 6 15:12 kmailrc
-rw------- 1 david david 1420 Feb 12 16:02 kmixctrlrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 1685 Feb 12 16:02 kmixrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 64 Feb 20 14:36 knotifyrc
-rw------- 1 david david 80 Feb 8 14:49 konq_history
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 139 Feb 8 14:09 konqiconviewrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 23 Oct 9 2001 konqlistviewrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 444 Feb 6 14:53 konqsidebartng.rc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 292 Feb 8 14:10 konquerorrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 729 Feb 6 14:53 konsolerc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 39 Oct 9 2001 korgacrc
-rw------- 1 david david 197 Feb 6 15:12 korganizerrc
-rw------- 1 david david 27 Feb 6 14:54 kpersonalizerrc
-rw------- 1 david david 186 Feb 6 15:12 kpgprc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 8107 Oct 9 2001 krusaderrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 140 Oct 9 2001 kscdrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 26 Oct 9 2001 ksensorsrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 104 Feb 6 14:53 ksmserverrc
-rw------- 1 david david 46 Feb 6 14:53 ksocksrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 28 Oct 9 2001 ksplashrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 14819 Oct 9 2001 ksslpolicies
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 592 Oct 9 2001 ksysguardrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 313 Feb 6 14:53 ktaskbarrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 28 Oct 9 2001 ktiprc
-rw------- 1 david david 61 Feb 6 14:53 kuriikwsfilterrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 148 Oct 9 2001 kuserrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 47 Feb 6 14:53 kwriterc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 128 Feb 6 14:54 kxkbrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 119 Feb 6 14:53 launcher_panelapplet_modernui_rc
-rw------- 1 david david 63 Feb 6 15:12 libkcal_htmlexportrc
-rw------- 1 david david 71 Feb 6 15:12 libkleopatrarc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 35 Oct 9 2001 mediamanagerrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 768 Feb 6 14:53 profilerc
drwxr-xr-x 2 david david 4096 Feb 6 14:53 session
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 551 Feb 6 15:31 startupconfig
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 1151 Feb 6 15:31 startupconfigfiles
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 291 Feb 20 14:36 startupconfigkeys
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 759 Feb 12 16:02 systemtray_panelappletrc
-rw------- 1 david david 7770 Feb 6 15:15 taskbar_panelapplet_rc
-rw------- 1 david david 32 Feb 6 15:15 tdeab2tdeabcrc
-rw------- 1 david david 3516 Feb 6 15:12 tdeconf_updaterc
-rw------- 1 david david 73 Feb 6 14:53 tdeio_httprc
-rw------- 1 david david 98 Feb 6 14:53 tdeioslaverc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 115 Oct 9 2001 tdelaunchrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 676 Feb 8 14:20 tdepowersaverc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 115 Feb 6 14:53 tdeprintrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 26 Oct 9 2001 tderandrtrayrc
drwxr-xr-x 5 david david 4096 Feb 6 15:12 tderesources
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 1470 Feb 6 14:53 tdeveloprc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 45 Oct 9 2001 tdewalletrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 0 Oct 9 2001 twincrystalrc
-rw------- 1 david david 81 Feb 6 14:53 twin.eventsrc
-rw------- 1 david david 0 Oct 9 2001 twinicewmrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 0 Oct 9 2001 twinplastikrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 david david 2096 Feb 12 16:02 twinrc
-rw------- 1 david david 1093 Feb 20 15:07 twinrulesrc
-rw------- 1 david david 60 Feb 6 14:53 twinrules_update
-rw------- 1 david david 63 Feb 6 14:53 twin_update
-rw------- 1 david david 138 Feb 8 14:09 uiserverrc
david@laptop:~$

D.P.W. · 2018-02-20 16:34

Dai_trying wrote:

Looks like apt isn't running, have you tried the update icon again?

Hi yes just tried it again and got the same message

"Package system is busy not ready to install now Setup can not continue
The lock is caused very probably,by ongoing background system updates.If this is the case you have to wait a momment for package system to finish these operations.
please make sure you are not installing another application and repeat setup later"

Dai_trying · 2018-02-20 16:39

As you do not appear to have apt running any processes I would have to leave this one for the dev team as it looks like their updater you are using and I have no experience with it.

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