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#1 2017-07-31 21:37

ben706
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Firefox tab crashes

Greetings,

I have the latest edition of Firefox running on q4os, have recently uninstalled and reinstalled, and keep getting tab crashes.  "Gah...your tab has crashed" error.  It has been hard to me to replicate consistently, but happens to the point where Firefox is not usable.  Any ideas??

Thanks,

Ben

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#2 2017-07-31 21:50

q4osteam
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Re: Firefox tab crashes

First you could try to remove user cache and firefox data and perform a test run. Note, this action would reset firefox to the initial state. Navigate to your home directory and move firefox data directory '$HOME/.mozilla' to somewhat else. Following terminal commands will do the job:
$ cd $HOME
$ mv .mozilla .mozilla-backup

Now run firefox from command line and watch output for errors preceding the crash:
$ firefox

Please post back a result of the test run.

You can simply restore original data moving '.mozilla-backup' directory back to '.mozilla'

EDIT: instructions fixed

Last edited by q4osteam (2017-07-31 22:16)

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#3 2017-07-31 22:17

crosscourt
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Re: Firefox tab crashes

Take a look at this support post from Mozilla and see if it helps,
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/fi … d-get-help

Last edited by crosscourt (2017-07-31 22:30)


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#4 2017-08-01 00:39

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

OK....here is what I got in my terminal window when the tab crashed:

###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel] Error: (msgtype=0x2C0085,name=PBrowser::Msg_Destroy) Channel error: cannot send/recv

Does this tell anyone anything?

Thanks Crosscourt....I'll chase some of that info too!

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#5 2017-08-01 00:55

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

Oh geez...it may have been the hardware acceleration issue....I swear I tried to find that recently and could not...and then read somewhere that firefox did not offer the option by default in it's linux releases.....well....we shall see if that does the trick!!!

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#6 2017-08-01 01:01

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

Hardware acceleration is one of the most common issues and we many times recommend turning it off but in your case it could have been other things easily.
Hardware acceleration is on by default so users need to be aware that it could be a problem.

Hope it works out!

Last edited by crosscourt (2017-08-01 01:08)


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#7 2017-08-01 01:40

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

Still got a damn tab crash...but if definitely helped stabilize things.  I'll see what happens in the next few days.

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#8 2017-08-01 04:30

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

Still crashing.....now regularly again.  It's a fresh install...no add ons, etc...yet seems stable in safe mode.  I can't figure this one out.

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#9 2017-08-01 09:58

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

@ben706
We will try to investigate this issue in more detail, so we would need some more info to be able to reproduce it. Please specify:

- CPU architecture
- Short specification of your hardware
- Exact firefox version
- Exact Q4OS version, run 'get-q4os-version' command from terminal
- Which way did you install firefox ? Software centre, package manager, other ?

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#10 2017-08-01 10:10

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

Anybody else noticed this issue within Q4OS ?

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#11 2017-08-01 10:53

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

q4osteam wrote:

Anybody else noticed this issue within Q4OS ?

Yes, I get crashes now and again. Annoying!

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#12 2017-08-01 14:12

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

I've been using Pale Moon for about a month or so with no issues...

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#13 2017-08-01 17:49

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

I use Firefox all the time and havent had any issues with Q4OS or any other distro and Windows.

Crashes arent exclusive to Firefox either as recently Chrome users have been complaining about similar crashes with Linux and windows.

Since its stable in safe mode , disable all extensions/addons/plugins, make sure to use the default theme and turn off hardware acceleration and see what happens.

Last edited by crosscourt (2017-08-01 18:02)


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#14 2017-08-01 17:54

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

CPU Stuff:

Architecture:          x86_64
CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:            Little Endian
CPU(s):                2
On-line CPU(s) list:   0,1
Thread(s) per core:    1
Core(s) per socket:    2
Socket(s):             1
NUMA node(s):          1
Vendor ID:             GenuineIntel
CPU family:            6
Model:                 23
Model name:            Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T8300  @ 2.40GHz
Stepping:              6
CPU MHz:               2401.000
CPU max MHz:           2401.0000
CPU min MHz:           800.0000
BogoMIPS:              4787.90
Virtualization:        VT-x
L1d cache:             32K
L1i cache:             32K
L2 cache:              3072K
NUMA node0 CPU(s):     0,1


Memory stuff:
            total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:          3012       1896       1115         62         73        980
-/+ buffers/cache:        842       2169
Swap:         3146         19       3127

Firefox Stuff:
Firefox ESR 52.2.0 64 bit

Q4 stuff:
1.8.7-n1

Install stuff:
I installed firefox from the Software centre

Hope this is what you need!  Thanks for looking into this!

Ben

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#15 2017-08-01 22:47

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

An interesting experiment might be to try Pale Moon and see if it has similar issues to Firefox as its forked off of Firefox.


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#16 2017-08-02 06:13

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

Palemoon works pretty well. I've had occasional lockups but normally that's on sites with some very bad javascript.

Firefox - I've given up using it - it is sooooo slooooowwwww it feels like one long crash.....That applies to both ESR and mainstream releases. The only addons I have are https everywhere, ublock origin and oldbar. Hardware accel always disabled. Having said that, I'm using old hardware so it may just be one of those things. TBH I've been using Seamonkey as my main web tool for so long I dread those odd sites which only render properly under Firefox - and for those I'm finding Palemoon a good alternative.

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#17 2017-08-02 17:59

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

Firefox 54 is pretty quick and you would be surprised how well it does compared to other browsers.

The issue here is Firefox isnt the only browser that crashes but overall Opera has been the most stable for me.


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#18 2017-08-03 03:50

ben706
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Re: Firefox tab crashes

Any clues?

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#19 2017-08-03 06:36

bin
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Re: Firefox tab crashes

A quick search on Google reveals a number of variations on this theme ranging from Java issues to gecko drivers

You said you had started in terminal to get the error, but did you follow the dev team recommendation to rename your profile folder? This will force a clean profile which can help identify cruft/issues with your current profile

As you haven't mentioned any specific site I take it this just happens at random - if it comes up when you start FF with no profile then it is very odd. Starting with no profile, in terminal type 'firefox www.linuxtoday.com'  What I'm looking at here is if there is something in FF first run that is causing this - just say Not Now to default browser question.

The exact error code produces one solution which you can try easily

Open Firefox
In the address bar type 'about:config'
Clear the warning
In the search bar type 'browser.tabs.remote.autostart'

This should produce 2 results:-
browser.tabs.remote.autostart
browser.tabs.remote.autostart.2

Set both values to 'false'

Restart Firefox.

If you're still having problems go to address bar and type 'about:support'

There's a button at the top of the screen - Copy Text to Clipboard. Paste that text into a text file and attach it so we can take a look.

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#20 2017-08-03 08:44

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

@ben706
We are not able to reproduce the issue so far. Please read and try to follow bin's advice in #19 just post above http://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=8736#p8736 as exact as possible, and then post results here.

@bin
Thanks for these valuable suggestions.

@HoracioVer
We are trying to investigate this issue in more detail, so we would need some more info to be able to reproduce it. Please specify:
- CPU architecture
- Short specification of your hardware
- Exact firefox version
- Exact Q4OS version, run 'get-q4os-version' command from terminal
- Which way did you install firefox ? Software centre, package manager, other ?

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#21 2017-08-03 21:12

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

Aw jeez..I never did do the test run thingie.  Ok...when I do that..rename the profile folder and run firefox from the terminal here is what I get in the terminal window: (firefox-esr:26365): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion 'object->
ref_count > 0' failed

That line was repeated numerous times in the terminal...then this stuff too:
1501790886150   addons.update-checker   WARN    Update manifest for webcompat@mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
1501790886162   addons.update-checker   WARN    Update manifest for firefox@getpocket.com did not contain an updates property
1501790886182   addons.update-checker   WARN    Update manifest for aushelper@mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
1501790886194   addons.update-checker   WARN    Update manifest for e10srollout@mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
1501790886206   addons.update-checker   WARN    Update manifest for {972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd} did not contain an updates property


I'll try what bin instructed above as well.

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#22 2017-08-03 21:33

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

OK...followed the instructions from bin and now firefox seems to shut down completely....when i reopen I get this:
Well, this is embarrassing.

Firefox is having trouble recovering your windows and tabs. This is usually caused by a recently opened web page.

You can try:

    Removing one or more tabs that you think may be causing the problem
    Starting an entirely new browsing session

I attempted to go to about:support but the crashes the browser as well. 

Does any of this behavior give some clues?

Thanks for the help and the patience!

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#23 2017-08-03 22:18

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

Can you start an entirely new browsing session?

Did you disable all extensions,plugins/addons,use default theme and turn off hardware accel?

Have you tried another browser like Chrome or Chromium and does your system crash with those browsers?

Its stable in safe mode based on your comments.

Last edited by crosscourt (2017-08-03 22:21)


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#24 2017-08-03 23:21

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

Yes to all of the above, except Chrome does not crash.  Just to be clear, it is not crashing the system, just the browser itself.

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#25 2017-08-03 23:32

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Re: Firefox tab crashes

I do get a crash report when I attempt to go to about:support, if that would help.

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